she knows the stuff. >> when george w. bush was in the same position in the polls barack obama was in -- >> that's not true, keith. >> it's not true. >> the polls are virtually identical. look at clear politics averages. i don't know what poll you are looking at. >> here's the difference -- >> uh i think you are right about the same position in 2004. >> 2004. >> here's what's different. the economy was doing very well for bush. >> right. >> from the middle of 2003 basically to the end of 2007. the bush tax cuts all kicked in. he had a lot of job creation. he created eight and a half million jobs. when george w. ran in 2004 he had a good economy with him. barack obama does not. i see that as a very substantive difference. >> two problems with that. first of all, people understand that barack obama didn't create the economic conditions we a have, george w. bush did. second, this president has been leading us in terms of creating real issues here. whereas mitt romney has basically offered nothing in terms of specifics on what